Talk:Trident

Hold On

"Phantom Ganon in Ocarina of Time is also seen wielding this trident."

How do we know that it is THE trident? What tells us that it is this particular trident?

Also, why would Ganondorf give his minions such an incredible weapon? Right now, I'm tempted to believe that this above statement is just more garbage which was never caught... --Felicia's Champion 04:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm inclined to believe that the "trident" in Ocarina of Time is just a simple piece of metal, nothing more. It doesn't even look like the tridents from the 2D games.User:Matt/sig 04:54, August 6, 2008 (UTC)

Then again, Ganon's Trident actually changes its look from game to game- so far, no two games have had it look the same. That, and Phantom Ganon's trident actually rather closely resembles THE Trident as seen in Four Swords Adventures, with the red-orange gem near the join of the tines. Dinosaur bob 17:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Animations

All the animated GIFs on this page make my head spin. Anybody else? User:Petenu/sig 13:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

lol this page is pretty backwards, small images are front and center while artwork is thumbnailed to gallery. User:Axiomist/sig 16:58, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Need Picture!

What does the trident look like exactly, or is their no way of telling?? GFlame

Uh... there's pictures of Ganon holding it all over the article.User:Matt/sig 20:47, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Here, here, and right here. All of which images are, obviously, on the article. User:Mandi/sig 20:53, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Interlopers?

The Trident seems to share some characteristics with the Fused Shadow- both cause those who touch them to grow into massive, mutated versions of themselves (e.g. the Fused Shadow turned a Deku Baba into Diababa, Darbus into Fyrus, and some aquatic creature (maybe a Bombfish) into Morpheel; the Trident turned Ganondorf into Ganon), both confer magical abilities, and both seem to be symbols of authority (the Fused Shadow being meant for the ruler of the Twili and the Trident being meant for the "King of Darkness"). Could this be worth mentioning on the page? Setras 19:20, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

FSA Trident

I'm not sure that the weapon was meant to be used only by Ganon. Why not other villains?

Also, the quote about the "evil spirit" residing in the Trident is probably mistranslated: link 1, where a translator says the following:

"Any words containing "邪" are notoriously difficult to put into English properly as this type of "evil spirit" ideology is very unique to Japanese culture. The katakana [from the trident inscription in the pyramid] may actually signify 邪気 (LEX NOTE: exactly the pun I suggested) which would make it a bit of a pun with 邪器 and so Nintendo went with the spirit route instead of having to write something like "tool of evil" or "evil device." "Evil aura" or something of that nature would be better, but who knows what kind of editing went on from the time the translation was done until the game was shipped. While the Japanese itself may literally imply that there is an evil spirit involved in some cases, 邪気 can also just mean an "evil vibe" or "bad feeling."

Jumbie and jacensolo06 had also translated it differently (link 2):

アンコク　カラ　ウミオトサレシ マ　ノ　ジャキ　トライデント
Born from darkness, the evil tool of demons, the trident.
Born from darkness, the demon's evil device, the trident
Evil...spirit of magic trident.

Hyrule Historia also doesn't mention the spirit. Zeldafan1982 12:36, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Malicious trident of Demons

マノジャキトライデント is 魔の邪気トライデント (ma no jaki toraidento) in Katakana. It's written in Katakana to sound foreign. There is no mention of tool. 魔 can mean demon, or an evil spirit. In Zelda, it's always talking about Demons, such as in Demon King, Demon Tribe, etc. 邪気 is also evil spirit/vengeful ghost, or maliciousness. It's incredibly similar in concept to Zelda's malice, it's literally the words "evil" and "air", air also being the word soul, 気 ki, like in Dragon Ball. It can describe a person thinking evil thoughts (hence the translation maliciousness), or the grudge of the dead (Hence an evil spirit/vengeful ghost). Incredible similar to Zelda's Malice as described in Twilight Princess. It's mentioned in A Link to the Past's backstory. Rather than Ganon's army storming the castle in the English version, it's his jaki, his evil aura, in this case, swarming towards the castle.