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Armor Templating

a few days ago i believe you mentioned you would show the proper formatting for information related to pieces of armor in Breath of the Wild. is this information available yet? Stonga (talk) 18:28, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Not just yet, but I will reply on the Armor talk page the moment I have them up. The examples will be for the Hylian Set and the Hylian Hood. TriforceTony (talk) 22:34, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thunder Helm as a key item

Tony, to avoid war-editing I'd like to discuss this issue of the thunder helm not being a key item. Key items are those that appear under the key items section of the game. The master sword is a key item, the champions tunic is a key item, in the sense that a key item is some main item in the game, but the thunder helm is wildly out of place in the Key Items section when (unless you have a very unique copy) the helm does not appear under Key Items. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmhurd (talk) 19:39, 16 June 2017‎ (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're talking about. The Master Sword and Champion's Tunic are both just Weapons and Armor respectively. The Thunder Helm appears in the Key Items section in the inventory when you first obtain it for Riju, and later appears as Armor when you obtain it the second time. TriforceTony (talk) 03:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Original Manga Character Pages

Hey Tony. Some of the characters original to the Legend of Zelda mangas don't have their own pages. I've thought about creating these pages, except my camera doesn't allow me to take the image type used on the wiki and I can't seem to fix it. I considered creating the pages anyway and leaving the character template without the respective image for another user to add, except that wouldn't exactly help it follow the quality standards. What are your thoughts on this?
Also, is there a reason why these pages haven't been made? I vaguely recall there being a page for the character Erune, although it appears to be deleted.

Take care. - Ciela04 (talk) 17:22, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

It's OK if a character doesn't have an image by the time the page is made. We have Template:No Image for that purpose, so someone will eventually add the image. I don't think there's any reason the pages haven't been made other than the fact that the manga just aren't as popular. You're very much welcome to have a go at making them, though. TriforceTony (talk) 17:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Yeah don't be afraid to make a page without an image. Do whatever you can do. But what format does your camera use? Maybe we can figure out how to convert it to png. Hylian pi (talk) 17:38, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks guys :-) My camera takes .jpg and .IMG. I've spoken to an editor about this before who, thankfully, gave me some advice on the topic. It's possible to be fixed, I just don't have the time at the present. Hopefully I will be able to soon though. - Ciela04 (talk) 18:23, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Proposal: Could we update the Canon policy in light of recent news?

Hey Tony! Hope you've been well. I have a proposal regarding what counts as canon in the Zelda universe in light of recent news:

Initially Hyrule Warriors was deemed as non canon. Aonuma said it was not a part of the timeline, thus not a part of the main story. However he said it does exist in the Zelda Universe, albeit in another dimension.[1]

Recently, we have found out that currently, Breath of the Wild does not exist on the Zelda timeline either, thus it's currently not part of the main story until a placement is decided.[2] However, Breath of the Wild is obviously still canon. Aonuma currently does not know where it would fit, that is if he even decides to fit it into the timeline at all. So to be consistent, Hyrule Warriors existing in another dimension should be considered canon too.

Both Hyrule Warriors and Breath of the Wild take place after Ocarina of time. In Hyrule Warriors this is evident from the plot where portals to the Ocarina of Time Era, Skyward Sword era, and Twilight Princess open up. In Breath of the Wild this is evident from an interview with Aonuma,[3] as well as references to Ganondorf's Gerduo form, the Divine Beasts named after the Sages, Lon Lon Ranch, the Temple of Time and other in game references.

Both Hyrule Warriors and Breath of the Wild follow the events of the main timeline (set after Ocarina of Time), but they are not on the actual timeline themselves. Not being on the timeline used to be enough to deem a game non-canon, however with recent news this should change.

Thus Hyrule Warriors should be considered canon or at least semi-canon, as existing in another dimension, is still existing.[4] Especially since Breath of the Wild retains canon status despite not being on the timeline either.[5]Editorguy117 (talk) 22:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. "Within the Zelda canon, there is the timeline, but there has always been the sense of the main story and kind of a side story. Like, Majora's Mask might be considered part of that, though it does exist as part of the timeline. With Hyrule Warriors, there is a link between the two, but it exists as a separate dimension, so it doesn't exist as part of the main canon.", Eiji Aonuma - Eiji Aonuma Addresses Hyrule Warriors Place in the Zelda Timeline
  2. "Actually, those timeline-related questions are difficult because we’ve never designed any Zelda games by saying “hey, we’re going to put that game here, we need to have it fit into this period or that one, etc.” That’s not what comes first for us. But indeed, once the game is released and we’ve been able to develop our story, we can tell each other “oh yes, we can make it fit here”, but that’s not important to us. Especially since there could be contradictions in every new game if we tried to follow the timeline. If we can put a game in the timeline, that’s great, but as for Breath of the Wild, we haven’t really decided where it belongs for now.", Eiji Aonuma - Zelda: Breath of the Wild devs on why Hero’s Path Mode was added as DLC, timeline, more
  3. Ben Reeves: "Does Breath of the Wild take place before or after Ocarina of Time?". Eiji Aonuma: "After." - 51 Questions And Answers About The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
  4. "Within the Zelda canon, there is the timeline, but there has always been the sense of the main story and kind of a side story. Like, Majora's Mask might be considered part of that, though it does exist as part of the timeline. With Hyrule Warriors, there is a link between the two, but it exists as a separate dimension, so it doesn't exist as part of the main canon.", Eiji Aonuma - Eiji Aonuma Addresses Hyrule Warriors Place in the Zelda Timeline
  5. "Actually, those timeline-related questions are difficult because we’ve never designed any Zelda games by saying “hey, we’re going to put that game here, we need to have it fit into this period or that one, etc.” That’s not what comes first for us. But indeed, once the game is released and we’ve been able to develop our story, we can tell each other “oh yes, we can make it fit here”, but that’s not important to us. Especially since there could be contradictions in every new game if we tried to follow the timeline. If we can put a game in the timeline, that’s great, but as for Breath of the Wild, we haven’t really decided where it belongs for now.", Eiji Aonuma - Zelda: Breath of the Wild devs on why Hero’s Path Mode was added as DLC, timeline, more

New / replacement images

Hi TT, I'm an infrequent contributor and having some trouble with uploading images as replacements, or additions to a gallery. I just updated several images in Enemies in Tri Force Heroes and elsewhere, and I have a screenshot of Stalchampion in the same pose as seen on that page, but with his English name. The Upload form won't let me replace it because it's currently a JPG and my picture is a PNG, so I'm not sure what to do.

In addition, while I'd keep that picture in the Stalchampion's Gallery, I've got another PNG of just the model to put on the Enemies list. Would this be done by uploading the new PNG on its own, then editing the source of the Enemies list? Sorry for my WikiDumbness, it's just hard to find specific answers in the help pages. --Htwretched (talk) 04:46, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

PNG images are almost always preferred over JPG, and it's impossible to upload a different filetype over another. If you have a PNG version of a JPG image, just upload it to the name with PNG.
You would upload a PNG (if the old one is a JPG) and then edit the appropriate pages, yes. It's fine to replace JPG images with PNGs. TriforceTony (talk) 05:59, 10 December 2017 (UTC)