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Is it worth mentioning that The Great Deku speaks to link in the old language when he first see's him in Wind Waker? --Doddy 20:17, 18 July 2007 (PDT)

Sure, put it in. You'll want to link to "the ancient Hylian Language" (like the articles on Jabun and Valoo do). --Adam 23:42, 18 July 2007 (PDT)

The Great Deku Tree appears in Tingle RPG.

Deku Sprout

Do we really have any evidence that the Deku Tree in WW is the Deku Sprout from OoT? I know it's a nice theory, but as far as I know that's all it is. I don't think it should really be written as fact until we have some supporting evidence. I won't edit the page or anything yet. I just want to know if we have evidence.

You're right. It should not be presented as fact. For as far as I know, there is no evidence. There's only the hint that he is pre-flood, because of some of the things he says, but since we don't know how much time there is between OOT and Ganon's return, it can not just be assumed the TWW GDT is the OOT DS.

I have an insane theory that I thought you might want to hear. I think that there wasn't a flood, but there was a landslide, which over many years "dumped" hyrule into the sea. I know its crazy, but its slimly possible.

2 things: I know that there's a possibility that the tree in TWW isn't the sprout in Ocarina of Time but he speaks the ancient language (from before the flood) and he is very old. I don't know if it's supported but I think that the language in OOT is the ancient language (it's hinted that 100 years have passed since OOT). Also, the game itself says that there was a great flood, and there was no reference to a landslide (Hyrule Field would look much more ruined). Pakkun 22:04, 3 July 2008 (UTC)Pakkun

I read in one of the Nintendo Powers that was talking about Wind Waker and that Wind Waker takes place roughly 100 years after Ocarina of Time (Link's current time, not seven years in the future). The sprout could be the Deku Tree in Wind Waker, but it is not sure.--Mistertrouble189 23:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Wind Waker takes place from the Adult Line (time of Adult Link in Ocarina of Time). Nintendo said that it was 100 years later only a long time prior to the release of Wind Waker. That has now been disregarded as in-game text and evidence clearly indicates that many hundreds, if not thousands, of years have passed since Ocarina of Time. This is also true of Twilight Princess. Nintendo again said prior to the game's release that it takes place 100 years after Ocarina of Time. But in-game text and evidence here indicates that at least a thousand years have passed. This makes any argument for the Deku Tree Sprout or the Great Deku Tree in Ocarina of Time being something in the other two games. That kind of growth just is not possible in only 100 years. That would never happen. Here in reality, Redwood trees take several hundred years to get really big. If people are to continue to argue these Deku Tree theories, then they have to get their timescales more realistic.User:Matt/sig 23:31, July 8, 2008 (UTC)
  • But this is the Legend of Zelda, anything can happen ;) but I get your point and thank you for correcting me about the whole timeline thing, and yeah it is probably more than a 100 years between OoT and WW.--Mistertrouble189 02:35, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to throw out that (see my page for more details) a GDT's life span is probably only a couple of hundred years.--Stalkid 09:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Deku Tree in TP

I just found an interesting video of a suppossed sighting of the GDT in Twilight Princess. In the Sacred Forest, there is a bridge that leads to another part of the forest, if you've gotten that far, I'm sure you know. If you back up and look up, there's a large tree with what appears to be a face. The quality is bad and I can't quite tell so I'm going there now. Here's the link

I just checked. Doesn't look anything like a face to me. Jimbo Jambo 03:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
The only thing I would like to point out is that enemy music plays in that exact location, I believe that is a proven glitch though. Other then that, the video screen shot does not look like a face.User:Mandi/sig 04:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I was actually wondering about the music. Upon seeing that there were no enemies around, I just guessed that the Puppet objects were being "stored" just off the map around that location so they wouldn't have to be loaded into the scene every time they appeared. Jimbo Jambo 05:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Maku is Deku in Termina?

Is it possible that the Maku Trees are the Terminian version of the Deku Tree? I mean the Oracle series was directly after Majora's Mask, which contained an alternate demention to ocarina of time which contained the Deku Tree. If my theory is true, that means Labrynna & Holodrum are actualy sub-kingdoms of the same kingdom the sub-kingdom Termina is of. However considering in the oracle seris, you were sent by the triforce contradicts this theory. However, as seen in the begining of MM, you see Zelda, pincess of Hyrule, which could mean that it is possible these 3 sub-kingdoms are of the same demention and the Maku Trees are Terminian Deku Trees. -- Ember Incubus -- 21:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC) -- Update 21:48, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

That gets into timeline theories a bit too much to have on the page, but I doubt that they are the same dimensions. The reason for that is that Hyrule is mentioned several times in the Oracle series, and not in the context of it as a distant land (as in other dimension).
Here's one of the quotes from the text dump of Oracle of Seasons: "Din, the Oracle of Seasons, was also in danger. So, as she requested... We've posed as a traveling troupe so we can sneak Din into Hyrule."
It is also clear that people can travel freely to Holodrum and Labrynna from Hyrule, as Zelda and Impa do. So I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that they're in the same place as Termina, and much less to list in an encyclopedic fashion. Alter  {T C B H } 23:51, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
Yes but its specificly in the oracle seris that it mentions a distant land. And it MIGHT be possible that hyrule is the same demention as termina. Becuase, princess zelda of hyrule is seen in the beginning of majora. But note that I said MIGHT. I still think they might be related in such away. Please consider moving this conversation to my theory page and also see my other majora theory which can't entirly be argued until Zelda Wii is out. -- Ember Incubus -- 01:04, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, as Alter has said, this is all way too theoretical for ZW's factual articles. User:Melchizedek/sig 09:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Deku Tree, Deku Tree Sprout, and the Kokiri evolution into Koroks

Since the Kokiri were created by the Great Deku Tree who died in Ocarina of Time, and in The Wind Waker no more Kokiri are alive: can't the change from Kokiri to Koroks be explained by the fact only the Great Deku Tree from OoT could create Kokiri, and his successor in TWW (who is theorized to be the grown Deku Tree Sprout) can't create beings exactly like the Kokiri, so he creats Koroks? Jeangabin 12:03, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

The change from Kokiris to Koroks is more because of evolution, in fact the TWW Deku Tree points out that Koroks were once human-like (so there were still Kokiris when he grew up); it's much like in the case of Zoras and Ritos (which is also confirmed). --K2L 16:09, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I read somewhere they swapped their humanoid bodies for the power of flight which is brought on by the leaves they wear on their face. --Smighty 13:23, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Name Change

It might just be me, but I keep referencing it as THE Great Deku Tree because that's how I remember it. Is it better with "The Great Deku Tree", or just keep it as is? --Smighty 03:50, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

The "the" isn't technically part of its name, so there's not much reason to move it. If he was consistently "The Great Deku Tree" instead of "the Great Deku Tree," it would be different, but to my knowledge the "the" is never capitalized. As it stands, if we move this page, we'd have reason to move Forest Temple to "The Forest Temple", Fairy Ocarina to "The Fairy Ocarina," and so on. — Hylian King [*]
Your logic is impeccable. As you were.. :P --Smighty 12:21, 17 April 2013 (UTC)