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Split suggestion (Moving Helping Romani and Cremia section to a new page)

I have been thinking, and perhaps this article should be split. Not because of the two characters, mind you; proposed is a separate article about the sidequests where Link helps the ranch girls, more or less like Reuniting Kafei and Anju does in regards of Kafei and Anju. Reasons for this include:

1. The current article might fare well at focusing mostly on the biography and characteristics of the two characters.
2. The new article might focus on the events where Link helps her, including the retrieval of Epona, the invasion of those entites, the escort of the milk delivery, and the final cutscenes where the sisters spend the Final Day together. In fact, the article might sport a content structure like that seen in Reuniting Kafei and Anju (the page about a sidequest revolving Kafei and Anju.

That's all for now. Supporters and detractors of this proposal alike are welcome to share opinions in regards of it. Godspeed. --K2L (Interrogatory) 19:22, 4 December 2010 (EST)

While I do believe a split is in order and have been thinking of bringing it up, I think the split should involve the two separate characters. The events they have can remain on their pages and mention only those that pertain to them, such as the Gorman Brothers attacking the milk cart on Cremia as opposed to Romani. I understand where you're coming from, but I think this will work better.—ZENOX ^T C 20:00, 4 December 2010 (EST)

Hmmm...I'm not too sure about this one. I remember when I first started working on expanding this page, I thought that whoever came up with the idea of having these two characters on the same page was a genius. I don't know, I guess if enough people vote for the split, then I won't oppose it, but I kinda like having Romani and Cremia in one page. On the other hand, I'm liking the idea of having a separate page to the girls' sidequests similar to the Reuniting Kafei and Anju (simply titled Helping Romani and Cremia). So I'll just sit back and see what the rest of the members think. Dany36 21:47, 4 December 2010 (EST)

I'm not sure about splitting the two characters, since they're as closely related as Twinrova (in both cases, we have sisters), meaning that they frequently share the same scenes, scenes that are best described in one page. The reason why I'm suggesting a new page for the sidequests is, .... well, see above =). But, in addition, it's a little akward to have a section about Romani, one about Cremia, and then one page about how to help them; in a hypothetical new page focusing on the sidequests, we could describe the involvments (required items, rewards, related places, etc.), how Link helps them, and perhaps a few extra images. I admit that these ranch sidequests aren't as intrincate as the reunion of Cremia's love interest and her best friend, but it might be a second step to start making pages about sidequests that aren't an item hunt, a minigame or a trading sequence. At least I think that would provide interest to new users of the wiki. --K2L (Interrogatory) 22:04, 4 December 2010 (EST)

Actually, I like having them on the same page (big suprise), and I really don't see a reason to split them, there's not a overly large amount of content on either character for single articles, and overall... the two combined seem to create a nice article. Mandi ^Talk 03:07, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I'm in agreement with you. The two characters fit well in one page =). What do you say about the initial suggestion? --K2L (Interrogatory) 22:13, 4 December 2010 (EST)

Haha, silly me, I misunderstood the question. Hmm...splitting the sidequest part into its own section sounds like an interesting idea, as I mentioned above. I guess it could work. There's a section in the Anju and Kafei pages describing an overview of what the sidequest does, and it has a main link to the Reuniting Kafei and Anju page. I'd love to write a summary for this page, as long as we don't split the characters. ;) Dany36 22:18, 4 December 2010 (EST)

Alright, to avoid confusions, I renamed the title of the section =P. --K2L (Interrogatory) 02:09, 5 December 2010 (EST)

I Support moving 'Helping Romania and Cremia' to a new page. The page is pretty cluttered and big as it is. The Super Smasher (talk) 11:34, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Turning the Helping Romani and Cremia section into a Sidequest article

In the hopes that everybody already got what the above split suggestion is about (it's NOT about the characters, it's about moving the Helping Romani and Cremia section into a new page), I have left a prototype of the hypothetic new article (select the 1st hidden headline to view it). You may notice it has been properly expanded, and some sections added. First thing first, though: Do you agree with the creation of this new page? --K2L (Interrogatory) 23:37, 28 January 2011 (EST)

I don't have a problem with it. Like I said: "There's a section in the Anju and Kafei pages describing an overview of what the sidequest does, and it has a main link to the Reuniting Kafei and Anju page. I'd love to write a summary for this page." ;) Dany36 00:15, 29 January 2011 (EST)

Not only does this comment act as a "bump", but it is also in firm support of this idea. Let's reference the Reuniting Kafei and Anju page, one that mirrors this proposal. It successfully describes the sidequest pertaining to the two characters without going too far into actual characterization. The article also calmly strafes the fine line between encyclopedic and "strategy guide" without catering to either over the other. Judging by the viewership on the Anju-Kafei sidequest page (120,000+ views), it's been a popular decision. Let's pull the votes necessary to put this identical proposal into action. — cipriano^talk 23:23, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

I'm not entirely sold on this idea. I think it worked for Anju and Kafei because they have separate pages, and editing the sidequest on both of their articles would have been a hassle. But Romani and Cremia are already in the same article and don't suffer from this problem. Unless we split the characters, I don't think I'll support this idea. You can still expand on the sidequest section. I really like the ideas you've got down in the sandbox. — Abdul ^{[T] [C] [S]}  03:55, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

Manga?

Should there be some mention of their appearance in the Majora's Mask manga? They don't actually appear in the story, (I own the manga) but they appear in the end with the note "We couldn't work them into the story no matter how we tried, so we're putting them here... Cremia and Romani." Should this be included in the article? Krizzy 23:30, 22 December 2011 (EST)

Yes, I think it fits well as a point of trivia. I went ahead an added it. It's pretty funny that they did that. Nice find!

Quick question: what is the number of the page where the note is found? — Hylian King ^[*] 11:33, 23 December 2011 (EST)

It's found on page 188 Volcanoid 21:17, 26 July 2012 (EDT)

Splitting Romani and Cremia

I believe we should split Romani and Cremia into their own separate pages. I've drafted up what it could look like here. From that, it's easy to see that the articles are substantial enough, so I'm certain it's high time for a split.
The result of this split would most likely have to result in the creation of a "Helping Romani and Cremia" page, akin to the relationship with Reuniting Kafei and Anju, as discussed above. - Tony^{T S C} 20:53, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Definite "yes" for me. This article is a leftover from an outdated (and in my opinion, misguided and unencyclopedic) mergist era of the wiki and should not exist in 2014. The article is totally divided into Romani, Cremia, and Sidequest sections - with no text in common other than the lead - so there's no reason for them to be on the same page. Further, the title makes linking to either Romani or Cremia difficult as it forces pipe linking.

To address a point made in an earlier conversation, comparing this to Twinrova is a false equivalence. Romani and Cremia are fully distinct entities who tend to act and think differently. Twinrova can literally merge and act as one, so it makes more sense for the article to be merged. Apples and oranges.

The only real downside to this split is it creates an article with a non-canon title ("Helping Romani and Cremia"). But this is something we often do for sidequests, so that itself does not justify mergism in this case. As long as the sidequest page is properly referenced in the Romani and Cremia articles, it's no problem. — Hylian King ^[*] 22:40, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

I have no qualms with splitting the page, and agree that the page does seem outdated. The Goron Moron (talk) 23:40, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

If there's no objection, I'll work on finalizing the split soon. - Tony^{T S C} 15:47, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

No objections here. :) Pixel 12:51, 25 August 2014 (ADT)

Brainwashed Romani appearing on 2nd Day (before evening)

So, after saving in Majora's Mask 3D, I purposefully did nothing during the Alien/Ghost invasion. This resulted in Romani being kidnapped, along with the rest of the cows. However, I managed to find her at the south end of Romani Ranch, in the morning (8:45, in-game time) of the Second Day. All she did was stand there, and when interacted with, she just replied with a blank ".........". This contradicts the information presented in the article, which mentions that she doesn't reappear until 6 pm (and that's in her bed).

Images: [1] [2]

Can anyone else confirm this? In either the original, N64, version, the Wii Virtual Console version, or the 3DS remake? PokeMaster22222 (talk) 08:27, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Back when we made the schedules, I didn't think to look for her over there during the second day. I confirmed she's there on console so it's not some fluke. Definitely a nice catch that probably would've been there longer if it wasn't found sooner. Thanks :) PPLToast (talk) 05:29, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

The Article Doesn't List Something Obvious...

Where can I list the information that Romani is the Termina counterpart of Malon? I feel like the article should mention this already but it isn't. Or are the articles written in-universe? Cremia2000 (My talk) 03:25, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Articles are written in-universe, so yes unless we get a citation, they are two different characters. If they shared the same model that might be valid trivia, but from the looks of it, their models are a bit different. It's just too speculatory without a citation. Hylian pi (talk) 03:34, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

I can agree with your point there. I can just point out numerous similarities, mostly aesthetic. What's your opinion on that? Cremia2000 (My talk) 03:39, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

That information is already stated in the infobox. Also, please avoid using images in signatures as stated in the custom signature rules. - Chuck * ^(Talk) 03:53, 15 May 2017 (UTC)