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Add more info in her Skyward Sword Section as well as Link's one in SS

I already bought the SS, however, I have to buy the wii motion plus in order to play it TT-TT So i'll have to wait a bit more. So, I've checked the info of both Zelda and Link, and I have to say that I think the information is a very few ....lol....I haven't played the game but I think that there is more information to add, do someone agree? Ps. Thanks for adding info. on the ZeLink SS shipping :D --Isamisa 09:44, 30 December 2011 (EST)

Yep, I agree! I'm actually gonna work on Zelda's and Link's SS sections today since I got the Hylia article done, which was my priority. ;] I'll get to these soon. Dany36 10:48, 30 December 2011 (EST)

Thank you very much :D You're a great person and thanks for the Hylia one :) It's very complete ;) --Isamisa 15:18, 30 December 2011 (EST)

Rename to "Zelda'

Since Zelda in Skyward Sword is not a princess, the page should be renamed simply "Zelda" I think. Itachou 10:25, 16 January 2012 (EST)

I agree with this, as every single Zelda will become a queen at some point in her life as well. Any Zelda being a princess is merely a status and title, not a name. Again, as I pointed out, every Zelda will become a queen someday. It just happens to be that we always seen an incarnation of Zelda at the time of her being a princess. As seen in Skyward Sword with its non-princess Zelda, that may change. For all we know, we may see a Queen Zelda in a future game, giving the title of this article more issues. So I agree it should just be named 'Zelda' because 'Princess' is a temporary title, not a first name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Her Grace (talk) 15:11, 23 January 2012
The SS Zelda will become a princess at one point in her life, too, if we are looking at it in future terms. ;P And I don't know, I think it would be too weird to strip a main character off her title that has been in pretty much almost every Zelda game. But hey, if the majority decides to move it to just Zelda, I won't throw a fit. :P For now I say no though. --Dany36 23:59, 23 January 2012 (EST)
She carries the "Princess" moniker for the majority of her incarnations, at least during Link's first encounter with her, so I think it should stay as it is. - TonyT S C 00:32, 24 January 2012 (EST)
Only in one game is Zelda not a princess. I do not think we should remove her title just for this reason. That would make as much sense as splitting her character in Skyward Sword from the rest of the article, and I say that as sarcastically as possible. Noble Wrot 00:37, 24 January 2012 (EST)
Dany and Pakkun sum up my opinion on this, so I say keep it the way it is. I believe she's explicitly referred to as Princess Zelda in every game aside from SS anyway? Eh, it doesn't seem like a big issue either way though. Ekim 01:25, 24 January 2012 (EST)
Followup: moving it to Zelda would also make it simpler to create links in text where "princess" is, for one reason or another, not used.KrytenKoro (talk) 02:59, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Should we move the family information to the Royal Family of Hyrule page?

I ask this because I noticed how long and messy the info box has gotten where the list of each Zelda's close relatives is listed. It seems like it would be much cleaner to move it to a new section in the Royal Family of Hyrule page, an article dealing with the family, with the info box linking to the part of the page detailing all known members of the family and their relations to each incarnation of Zelda. Her Grace 17:11, 23 January 2012 (EST)

OoT Zelda

I know that most Zeldas are portrayed as nigh perfect, but can we pleeeeeease make it clear that OoT Zelda manages to basically always make the worst decision? Her plot with Link allows Ganon to get the Triforce of Power, her revealing herself to Link gets her captured in a crystal, and her bit with the Ocarina at the end (1) splits the universe into separate timelines, only one of which has a "good" ending for Hyrule (2) shatters the Triforce of Courage and vanishes the hero in the Adult timeline, resulting in Hyrule eventually being destroyed, and (3) dooms Link to a regret-filled life so that he becomes a specter in the Child timeline.

Seriously she is the worst Zelda.KrytenKoro 12:32, 7 February 2012 (EST)

Haha! She definitely is the worst Zelda for creating three different timelines and ruining Link's life (and even killing him in one!). :P But seriously, her role in making the three timelines should probably be mentioned somewhere in there... --Dany36 14:46, 10 February 2012 (EST)

Oracle of Hope?

Where is she called like that? I looked at the Oracles' text dumps and didn't get any result. Zeldafan1982 19:52, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

I've also never heard that name. She is referred to as the "symbol of hope", but that doesn't make her the "Oracle of Hope". — Hylian King [*] 07:27, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Zelda hidden in Wind Waker Explanation

Hi there, Did we ever get an explanation as to why the King of Hyrule kept Zelda hidden down in Hyrule from Ganon? After he reveals her true identity to Tetra, he says to her “You must stay hidden here – Fortunately Ganon doesn’t know about this place.” Yet, about 5 minutes earlier, when Link confronts Ganon in Foresaken Fortress, Ganon clearly states “Boy, did you notice when you pulled that sword out of it’s pedestal how things started stirring again down there?” Ganon clearly had a knowledge of the hidden basement under Hyrule. JUST WONDERING o_O —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doubletallsteve (talk) 26 September 2012

Maybe you should list it as a mistake in the listing that is Mistakes in The Legend of Zelda Series? --Norrvegr (talk | contribs) 12:37, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

Fi's Comment

You can't use Fi on her - she gets kidnapped immediately after she awakens.
(I've played the game)
Is it unused? Technickal 20:45, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Is it possible to target her while he is performing his little ritual, perhaps? Or afterwards, before fighting Demise (don't think so, but...)? Either way, we sometimes include text like that, such as for the Blue Chuchu, which you cannot target normally due to appearing underwater. As long as it doesn't contradict something else, I see no reason not to include it. It appears to be in the text dump. User:Fizzle/sig 23:36, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Are Zelda from 'A Link to the Past is the same one from 'Oracle of Seasons/Ages?

Just wondering. Does Hyrule Historia says something about it? --Isamisa 01:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't think so, but since ALTTP and OOX Link are the same, then that has to be true for Zelda as well... — Hylian King [*] 01:10, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes, given that the Link is the same and Zelda came from Hyrule to see Link, it has to be the same Zelda.User:Justin/sig 01:20, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks guys, I will consider it a 50% that yes (as it happened with ALttP/OoX/LA) and 50% that not since in Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link features the same Link, but they features different Zeldas. So, it's still unknown so far.. :/. We need to wait for a confirmation. --Isamisa 02:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

AoL was a special case though. At the time the Oracles occur, the sleeping Zelda from AoL was.. not sleeping yet** and there is no reason to assume (it would be pure fanfic) that a spell was cast on another Zelda. Since the Oracles take place shortly after ALttP, the princess has to be the same in both games.
** The complete Triforce was only recently (at the end of ALttP) in the possession of the Royal Family, while the father of the sleeping Zelda ruled later, at the end of the Golden Era. Zeldafan1982 03:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, now I really would like to know how do you know that TLoZ and TAoL are different Zeldas (even though both games feautures the same Link)? I would really like to know! Is there any evidence? --Isamisa 21:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

According to the AoL manual the spell was cast on the sleeping Zelda long before the events of the game. This means that during the events of LoZ this Zelda was still under the spell, so she's not the Zelda that appears in LoZ. You should also check pages 104 - 109 from HH. Zeldafan1982 22:24, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Princess Zelda's Family relatives

So, according to Hyrule Historia, since Princess Zelda from TAoL was already asleep before the events of TLoZ, it's right to assume that the Princess Zelda from TLoZ is a descendant from the Prince of Hyrule (since he ordered that every female born in the royal family was going to be called 'Zelda), and since the King was already dead, should we add this info to the family branch of Princess Zelda's page? --Isamisa 23:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Spirit maiden

Spirit maiden appears in Skyward Sword, but it is never capitalized so I'm not sure if it should count as a title. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 01:31, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

That's not an absolute rule that it must be capitalized (many terms are not, but are on the wiki to retain consistency). Regardless, I think a recurring (or otherwise significant) epithet certainly counts towards a "title" of sorts. - TonyT S C 02:43, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Russian name

Since it has been requested of me to add this to the articles I added Russian names to and this one is protected could someone please add this line to that section please? {{exp|used in trailer|Зельда (''Zel'da'')}} —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raltseye 18:02, 22 June 2016

You need to clarify which trailer. - Midoro (T C) 19:39, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
They're from the HWL trailer in the official Russian Nintendo YouTube channel. I'll go ahead and add it. - Chuck * (Talk) 20:05, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Update half a year later, still no transcription, why not? I asked it to be added last time, any way, it's (''Zel'da''). Also could the same person adding this change please remove the note about its usage as Breath of the Wild is going to be translated into Russian. --Raltseye (talk) 21:27, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
All users are able to edit pages themselves, so there's no need to ask someone to do it. And by the way, you need to give a source that states that BotW will be translated into Russian. - Chuck * (Talk) 21:33, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
This page is protected, also source has been provided on Talk:Link. --Raltseye (talk) 21:36, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Shouldn't transcriptions be in italics? Why isn't Zelda's Russian name in italics? --Raltseye (talk) 09:54, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Also the Russian name is not the same as the English name as it is a transcription of its English name. Could someone please change this? --Raltseye (talk) 10:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Can anyone translate this page?

It seems a whole page that mentions all the Princess Zeldas from all the games, however, the Zelda from ALttP is separate from the of Zelda of OoS/OoA; so I'm wondering if they're the same person [sorry if the question gets repetitive]. Any help on translating the text #3 and text #5 would be greatly appreciated it!

Here is the page: [1]

--Isamisa (talk) 22:40, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I managed to compile the text for the Oracle games, and here it is:
ホロドラムとラブレンヌの2つの地の、それぞれの巫女を救うと登場する。大魔王ガノン復活のために暗躍していたツインローバに攫われ、聖なるいけにえとされそうになった。
The ALttP one is iffier because the furigana is too tiny to really read, but I can tell you that it doesn't distinguish that Zelda as her own separate entity from ALttP. - TonyT S C 01:39, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello! Here's a bigger version of the image I believe: [2] !
Thanks for putting those kanji japanese words! --Isamisa (talk) 02:00, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
That large version is the one I used to get the text in the first place, I'm afraid. - TonyT S C 03:20, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Wah! that's a shame! Do you know what does the title says? --Isamisa (talk) 23:55, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
あなたの好きなゼルダはだれ?
神に選ばれし選乙女
歴代“ゼルダ姫”総選挙
First line says "Who is your favorite Zelda?" so it's a fan voting thing. - TonyT S C 01:02, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Well...since each Zelda is labeled in numbers; this means that those are all the zeldas' in total; which means that they're two different persons! ::::::Those are my thoughts! The sad thing is that I asked the japanese person who posted about it and she blocked me, which left me very confused (seems many japanese people block random users, oh well).
I haven't played OoS; so I don't know how was Link's meeting with Zelda..hnm--Isamisa (talk) 01:19, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
That's possible in the Japanese canon, if Nintendo Dream is the JP equivalent of Nintendo Power, and it adheres to the canon the Japanese community might have. The page also doesn't account for every known iteration of Zelda, just the popular ones making appearances in main series titles, so it's short-sighted to say that it's an adherence to canon.
Insofar as us, nothing is changed. We go by US English canon, which is unaffected by a Japanese magazine that contradicts canon. All it is is a greater question for the Japanese community. - TonyT S C 02:09, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
That's interesting stuff you're saying! Although the thing is...that these are all of the Zeldas that have appeared in the games; a while ago, I even made a chart about it, though I putted Alttp zelda and oos/ooa zelda as if they were the same person, because I thought they were, though, I'm thinking they're two different people. Anyway, here's the chart: http://pre13.deviantart.net/5289/th/pre/f/2016/008/e/7/zelda_timeline__link_and_princess_zelda_by_isamisa-d72trje.png
There are tons of things that the official zelda japanese magazines publish and the US doesn't translate it, it's saddening! --Isamisa (talk) 02:29, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Just be aware that per ZW's canon policy, the Zelda from A Link to the Past and the Oracle games are the same person. - TonyT S C 02:38, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Okay! I believe you! Do you know where in the US zelda does say that? I would like to post it on tumblr if you don't mind! I believe now that they're the same person, unless it's stated otherwise! --Isamisa (talk) 15:20, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
The primary factor is Hyrule Historia, which established ALttP, Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages and Link's Awakening as part of the same set. - TonyT S C 01:39, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Newer Zelda art for main image

Hi, I spent a lot of time making that artwork transparent for use of the main image, there's several reasons why it's a better option:

  • It's a larger image and higher resolution with more detail.
  • It shows her in her full Princess regalia which is more accurate to the descriptor rather than her semi-formal casual attire.
  • It's more recent and up to date, as of Ballad of the Champions.

Is there a particular reason why we should retain the older image over the newer one provided? Thanks. And Tony, should you still feel it's inadequate after considering my comments, I will respect your reversion and I will leave it at that. Editorguy117 (talk) 04:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

It's not a larger image. The older one has over 3 times the height and over 2 times the width of the new one, and that isn't accounting for the actual dimensions of the new one since it hasn't been properly cropped yet.
Neither are really more accurate to Zelda. One is what she wears while at Hyrule Castle (in the past) and the other is what she wears while conducting field missions (also in the past, and in the true ending).
It may be more "recent" but it's a cropped part of a greater piece of promotional artwork for the DLC pack which doesn't depict Zelda's full body. While your image certainly is useful, it's quite clear that it was never meant to serve as the artwork for Zelda. Given all of these factors, I maintain that we should stick to the old, though your version can be used in the BotW section. TriforceTony (talk) 05:38, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
I was actually mistaken about the dimensions of the original, it is bigger than I thought. Fair enough, you can revert if you'd like. I just wanted to explain my reasoningEditorguy117 (talk) 09:32, 11 February 2018 (UTC)