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Talk:Ocarina of Time (Item)

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Okay, I've noticed something: In the game, young zelda gives young link the ocarina, and in the end, old link gives the ocarina to old zelda, and the ocarina stays with old zelda, and link goes back in time, so how does young zelda give link the ocarina in MM? RupeeLord 20:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


Well the timelines were split, cutting off the future time line. And Link was sent back to a time before Ganondorf made his move against Hyrule Castle. So none of the future events have even happened yet. So Zelda would still have the Ocarina with her. And based on TP, Link warned the castle of Ganon's plans and he was stopped. The Triforce still being with them is what was called the Divine Prank. It somehow was given to the the three destined to hold it even though the Sacred Realm wasn't opened. This is what a scientist calls a paradox. It is something that contradicts itself. But it is still true. Yeah, paradoxes can really hurt your brain when you try to think about them. But that is what it is. 20:29, February 14, 2009 (UTC)
It's not really a paradox if you assume the gods did have a hand in it. The Triforce doesn't need to be in two places at once for it to work. Jimbo Jambo 22:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
You can see Young Zelda giving the OoT to Young Link during the flashback atop the Clock Tower on the first 3rd day, while Link is a Deku Scrub trying to retrieve the OoT to make the Happy Mask Salesman turn him back again.

So that means that the Door of Time never opened, because it never happened... so how did Link get out? RupeeLord 18:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

If you actually watch the cutscene, you'll see that the door is open for Link. 19:00, February 16, 2009 (UTC)
He's right though. Supposedly Zelda sent Link back to a time before he collected the spiritual stones and opened the Door of Time. Of course, it's easy enough to say that it was just magic or divine will or something that opened the door for him. Jimbo Jambo 23:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Title parser

Shouldn't this be at (object) as with Majora's Mask? Or should both be at (item)?KrytenKoro (talk) 14:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

There's an important difference between the wiki's definition of an "item" and an "object." It's always been that "item" refers to the inventory, whereas "object" refers to everything else. By these definitions, the Ocarina of Time is an item while Majora's Mask is just an object (because it's never in Link's inventory).
I think the articles should stay where they are. We should probably do a better job of documenting our definitions, though.
Now that I think about it, wouldn't it be more proper if they didn't have parsers at all? The disambiguation can be moved to "Ocarina of Time (disambiguation)", same for Majora's Mask. 15:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
I would support both of them, but as far as differentiating item and object, are there any titles that actually have both? X (Item) and X (Object)? If not, I'd suggest sticking with one.KrytenKoro (talk) 16:01, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Moving the disambiguation pages sounds like a good idea. - Chuck * (Talk) 06:38, 11 March 2015 (UTC)