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Talk:Goddess Sword

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Recent articles have revealed that the sword's name is the "Goddess Sword". Spoon Link 12:54, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

You are indeed right, It appears on multiple occasions, and it is similar to "Phi" and "Fi" (which has already been moved). I'm in favor.


Purlo's Grandfather {Talk||Contributions} 20:52, 1 October 2011 (EDT)


Theory

There is a theory at the Zelda Univers that i don't know if we should have in the article. It was thought tha since the sages made the Master Sword, and Hylia made the Goddess Sword, that later became Master Sword, the sages maybe helped Hylia to creat the blade. Should this be written as a "Theory"? 9klas 09:29, 10 January 2012 (EST)

Would you be able to provide a link to the forum topic in which this is discussed? If so, then yes. We require new theories to be widely accepted by the community at a minimum before they go on a page; this is because we are the "community's wiki" and need to be as accurate as possible, especially when dealing with non-factual information. Thanks for the heads up! User:Cipriano/sig 10:35, 10 January 2012 (EST)
Although, according to TP the Sages crafted the MS, I don't think that we should take as a given that this is still canon. If the theory is included, it should make clear that this is a possibility. Also: don't forget to sign your posts! I added your sig for you ;) Zeldafan1982 12:08, 10 January 2012 (EST)
Yes, i found it. It's writen by "Her Grace" here --9klas 17:54, 10 January 2012 (EST)
Hmmm...that's a good possibility. I think it would be fine to add it in the article under a Theory section or something. Dany36 13:05, 11 January 2012 (EST)
Ok, can someone do that? I'm not very good at english grammar.. --9klas 09:43, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Beacons, Nayru's Flame

There should be some coverage of Beacons...also, I think you get the four extra beacons from Nayru's Flame.KrytenKoro 00:18, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Haven't checked this whole "four extra beacons for Nayru's Flame" claim (which would make it nine beacons per area if true), but I know the first beacon upgrade (from one per area to five per area) isn't tied to sword status at all--you get this upgrade automatically in the storyline upon first reaching shallow slipsand. --Shiningpikablu252 10:35, 12 January 2012 (EST)
You're right. I remembered that it was something to do with Lanayru, but mistakenly thought it was getting the flame. Still, Fi controls the beacons, so we should cover it as one of the sword's abilities.KrytenKoro 12:23, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Swords of Skyward Sword

Should there be a "Swords of Skyward Sword" page separate from this one? Games with more than one sword (i.e. most of them) have a page listing every sword in the game. Because every sword in Skyward Sword except the first one is an upgrade of the same item, this page lists all but one of the swords, but then the same is true of A Link to the Past; every sword in it except for the starting sword is the Master Sword or an upgrade thereof. It still has a Swords of A Link to the Past page. What do people think? --Osteoderm Jacket 03:02, 15 February 2012 (EST)

Yeah, I was actually thinking of that when I was looking through the "Swords of" pages. SS should still get its own page. --Dany36 14:05, 16 February 2012 (EST)

True Master Sword versus Master Sword

Does anyone know of any differences between the Master Sword and the True Master Sword as far as the actual gameplay is concerned? Obviously, in-story the True Master Sword has the power to defeat Demise, which the Master Sword does not, but you can't reach Demise without the True Master Sword. Are there any functional differences between them? Thus far, I haven't found any. They both appear to do the same amount of damage (e.g. they both take seven hits to kill a Moblin), and I'm not aware of any difference in using Skyward Strikes or dowsing between them. Does anyone know of any such differences? Or are they functionally identical in gameplay? If the latter is true, we should note it. --Osteoderm Jacket 00:54, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

I know that in hero mode the Skyward Strike is instantly charged when held skyward with the True Master Sword. But other then that I cant think of any. --Heroofstuff 06:34, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
The Skyward Strike charges faster with the True Master Sword in normal mode as well. — Hylian King [*] 06:54, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
OK, yeah, I think you guys are right about that. The True Master Sword does seem to charge faster than the Master Sword in either mode (since the charge time starts out fast in Hero Mode, it becomes basically zero once you get the True Master Sword). I'll add that to the page. --Osteoderm Jacket 20:24, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

Time Travel

Under trivia it says that both the goddess sword and master sword exist at the same time, and I'm not entirely sure that would be truthful because for all we know, there can only be one instance of the master sword existing. So going back in the past wouldn't mean that the master sword is still there, it could be that once the sword is pulled from it's pedestal that it only exist with the person holding it. Otherwise someone could just go back in time and grab as many master swords as they pleased. Kiotaa 21:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

There's no reason to assume that. That's certainly not the case with the incarnation of the goddess who created the Master Sword, Hylia.KrytenKoro (talk) 02:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
The Goddess Sword would need to exist in Skyloft in the past, regardless of whether or not the Master Sword was in the past as well (which it was). In the unified timeline, Hylia sealed Demise, then put the Goddess Sword in her statue. Even if it wasn't in the statue at the time(s) that Link went into the past, it would still need to exist somewhere in the past; otherwise, this creates a paradox, because at the start of SS, Link draws the Goddess Sword from inside the statue. If the Goddess Sword had not been put in the statue, Link never could have drawn it, thus precluding SS from ever taking place at all. The Master Sword is then forged in the future, but it is brought into the past, and enshrined there. Thus, the original Goddess Sword from the past exists in the past, while its parallel counterpart from the future- the Master Sword- does as well. Setras (talk) 04:46, 24 December 2013 (UTC)