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Did anyone else notice they look suspiciously like the Royal Jewels from Four Swords Adventures? I think it should be noted in a trivia section or something that, due to the storyline of the Four Swords subseries and all, that the two sets of items may be meant to be the same. Dinosaur bob 18:01, 7 October 2007 (EDT)

Similarity to Essences of Time

ever notice how the essence of time, Lonely Peak, looks like the earth element? --Remo 12:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it is no different than Nintendo using the Spritual Stone designs on the Pearls.--Matt 12:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

actually those designs were from the oracle games --Remo 05:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, Nayru's Pearl still resembles the Zora symbol seen in Ocarina of Time, but yes, you're right. --Ando 12:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

just becuze they look alike does not mean they are the same.Dragonstetraforce 20:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Same objects?

This article assumes that the Royal Jewels and Elements are one and the same, but this seems to contradict the events of Minish Cap, during which the Elements were gradually placed in the Elemental Sanctuary, where they stayed thereafter. They were still in the Elemental Sanctuary when the entrance sealed at the end of the game, and so no longer existed within Hyrule. So, it's highly unlikely, if not impossible, for the two sets of objects to be synonymous, though the Jewels were probably modeled after the Elements. I'm thinking the article should be edited, and perhaps even split into two articles, to reflect this, and I'd be happy to do so myself once I have a free opportunity; but before I do so, does anyone else support this? Setras 04:48, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure if a split is a good idea. Even if there is a small inconsistency, it's heavily implied that the two sets of objects are the same. The Elements still appear on their pedestals in the Four Sword Sanctuary (which is strongly implied to be the Elemental Sanctuary, and is even named so in Hyrule Historia) in Four Swords, so it's likely that they were brought back into Hyrule between the events of The Minish Cap and Four Swords, or never truly left Hyrule in the first place (The Elemental Sanctuary is referred to as being located between Hyrule and the Minish World, connecting to both). Also, let's not forget the fact that three games took place between Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures, which would explain the name change, and that the Minish Door is said to open every 100 years, which would give plenty of opportunities for them to be retrieved if they were truly in another world. It wouldn't be the first time in the series where there have been continuity errors between games, and I believe that Nintendo intended for the objects to be the same. Dannyboy601Talk 17:12, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
The Elemental Sanctuary could have also just leaked into the Light World, as well. Border fluctuations, and all that, it's not like none of the other games have them.KrytenKoro 22:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I think it is fairly obvious the two sets are one and the same, as The Minish Cap was meant to reveal the origins of most things in the Four Sword games. The Four Sword Sanctuary is strongly hinted to be the location where the Elemental Sanctuary was located in Hyrule, the place where the Minish World and Hyrule intersected. Aside from all these things, the simple reason that each of the Elements is identical right down to the detail to the Royal Jewels is almost certainly no coincidence. Just my two cents tho. Ghirahim87 02:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
I also think that the Elements could have been moved at some point back in Hyrule between TMC and FS. I'd like to note though that the official translation is not necessarily correct. It would be better if it was translated as Four Sword Sanctuary as this is how it is called in-game. In Japanese it literally translates to "sanctuary" or "sacred precincts" (link). Zeldafan1982 16:23, 3 May 2013 (UTC)